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	<title>Comments on: 204. Sand, storm and shingle &#8211; from Rye to the sea</title>
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		<title>By: Dr Bernard Leeman</title>
		<link>http://roadsofstone.com/2009/02/27/204-sand-storm-and-shingle-from-rye-to-the-sea/#comment-12397</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just for interest, perhaps you should have mentioned that some of Bob Marley&#039;s Marley ancestors came from Rye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for interest, perhaps you should have mentioned that some of Bob Marley&#8217;s Marley ancestors came from Rye.</p>
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		<title>By: Rye at Dawn &#171; compellingphotography</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rye at Dawn &#171; compellingphotography]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This description of Rye on the Roads of Stone website is a good read for those who want to know more.  50.946508 0.742693 Share this:TwitterFacebookDiggLinkedInStumbleUponRedditLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This description of Rye on the Roads of Stone website is a good read for those who want to know more.  50.946508 0.742693 Share this:TwitterFacebookDiggLinkedInStumbleUponRedditLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roads</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s fine, Ella. I spend a lot of time thinking about &lt;em&gt;panna cotta&lt;/em&gt;. 

I&#039;d love to have seen Ralph Fiennes in &lt;em&gt;Hamlet&lt;/em&gt; -- the first time I saw the play was with Ben Kingsley (then still unknown) in the lead role at Stratford. David Tennant (aka Dr Who) has just finished an RSC winter season as the Prince of Denmark, selling the place out to critical acclaim -- and a film version of this &lt;em&gt;finest Hamlet of a generation&lt;/em&gt; is now in the offing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s fine, Ella. I spend a lot of time thinking about <em>panna cotta</em>. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have seen Ralph Fiennes in <em>Hamlet</em> &#8212; the first time I saw the play was with Ben Kingsley (then still unknown) in the lead role at Stratford. David Tennant (aka Dr Who) has just finished an RSC winter season as the Prince of Denmark, selling the place out to critical acclaim &#8212; and a film version of this <em>finest Hamlet of a generation</em> is now in the offing.</p>
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		<title>By: ellaella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellaella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I&#039;ll be thinking about panna cotta for the rest of the day.

I&#039;d forgotten about &lt;em&gt;Wanda&lt;/em&gt; even existing. Haven&#039;t seen it in ages and I really enjoyed it. 

Ralph Fiennes in Hamlet was delightful. For all other instances, I&#039;ll take my frothy Lucia. (Froth. Now I&#039;m thirsty too...)

Have a great weekend!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;ll be thinking about panna cotta for the rest of the day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d forgotten about <em>Wanda</em> even existing. Haven&#8217;t seen it in ages and I really enjoyed it. </p>
<p>Ralph Fiennes in Hamlet was delightful. For all other instances, I&#8217;ll take my frothy Lucia. (Froth. Now I&#8217;m thirsty too&#8230;)</p>
<p>Have a great weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: Roads</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Ella. I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll go to hell for enjoying Lucia more than Hamlet -- not for one moment -- because &#039;enjoyment&#039; and Hamlet aren&#039;t really words for the same sentence.

Your mention of Georgie and Lucia inventing Italian words mischievously reminds me of the scene where Kevin Kline&#039;s Otto uses restaurant Italian to seduce Wanda (Jamie Lee Curtis) in &lt;em&gt;A Fish Called Wanda&lt;/em&gt;. As I recall, food was the route to that lady&#039;s heart, and some way beyond... 

Raspberry fool? Did I hear whispers of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panna_cotta&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;panna cotta&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;? I&#039;m hungry already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ella. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll go to hell for enjoying Lucia more than Hamlet &#8212; not for one moment &#8212; because &#8216;enjoyment&#8217; and Hamlet aren&#8217;t really words for the same sentence.</p>
<p>Your mention of Georgie and Lucia inventing Italian words mischievously reminds me of the scene where Kevin Kline&#8217;s Otto uses restaurant Italian to seduce Wanda (Jamie Lee Curtis) in <em>A Fish Called Wanda</em>. As I recall, food was the route to that lady&#8217;s heart, and some way beyond&#8230; </p>
<p>Raspberry fool? Did I hear whispers of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panna_cotta" rel="nofollow"><b>panna cotta</b></a>? I&#8217;m hungry already.</p>
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		<title>By: ellaella</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful links, thank you. I didn&#039;t know the garden room at Lamb House was bombed during the war; it was such an important setting in the Tilling books and I believe it was in that room that Benson once said, &quot;This is Miss Mapp&#039;s garden room and I am Miss Mapp.&quot; Perhaps &quot;house&quot; was what he said in place of &quot;garden room&quot; but still. 

I actually created a dish called Lucia and Georgie Chicken, which has been on my blog for some time. Georgie and Lucia loved dropping Italian words (some made up) and phrases, using just enough to make it seem they could speak Italian when they could not. My dish uses just enough Italian ingredients but of course it&#039;s not Italian. I also have a raspberry fool, a direct result of the earlier Riseholme/Broadway Lucia books.

Will I go to hell for enjoying Lucia more than Hamlet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful links, thank you. I didn&#8217;t know the garden room at Lamb House was bombed during the war; it was such an important setting in the Tilling books and I believe it was in that room that Benson once said, &#8220;This is Miss Mapp&#8217;s garden room and I am Miss Mapp.&#8221; Perhaps &#8220;house&#8221; was what he said in place of &#8220;garden room&#8221; but still. </p>
<p>I actually created a dish called Lucia and Georgie Chicken, which has been on my blog for some time. Georgie and Lucia loved dropping Italian words (some made up) and phrases, using just enough to make it seem they could speak Italian when they could not. My dish uses just enough Italian ingredients but of course it&#8217;s not Italian. I also have a raspberry fool, a direct result of the earlier Riseholme/Broadway Lucia books.</p>
<p>Will I go to hell for enjoying Lucia more than Hamlet?</p>
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		<title>By: Roads</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, thanks, Ella. As you say, Rye is the &lt;em&gt;alter ego&lt;/em&gt; of the fortified hilltop town of Tilling in EF Benson&#039;s novels about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/uk/in-search-of-mapp-and-lucia-in-rye-591184.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mapp and Lucia&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Here are some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rye-tourism.co.uk/efbenson/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;scenes from EF Benson&#039;s novels&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; as set in Rye.

Sad to say that I didn&#039;t spend a lot of time seeking out Lamb House. Mermaid Street looked distinctly uphill at the point when breakfast called. It&#039;s good to leave something to see in my next visit.

For those interested in exploring the scenery of the levels on foot, coincidentally &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Independent&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; featured a similar route along the opposite bank of the river from the path I followed, and you can find it here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/uk/in-search-of-mapp-and-lucia-in-rye-591184.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The sands of time have left Rye high and dry&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Many thanks again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, thanks, Ella. As you say, Rye is the <em>alter ego</em> of the fortified hilltop town of Tilling in EF Benson&#8217;s novels about <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/uk/in-search-of-mapp-and-lucia-in-rye-591184.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Mapp and Lucia</b></a>.</p>
<p>Here are some <a href="http://www.rye-tourism.co.uk/efbenson/" rel="nofollow"><b>scenes from EF Benson&#8217;s novels</b></a> as set in Rye.</p>
<p>Sad to say that I didn&#8217;t spend a lot of time seeking out Lamb House. Mermaid Street looked distinctly uphill at the point when breakfast called. It&#8217;s good to leave something to see in my next visit.</p>
<p>For those interested in exploring the scenery of the levels on foot, coincidentally <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk" rel="nofollow"><b>The Independent</b></a> featured a similar route along the opposite bank of the river from the path I followed, and you can find it here: <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/uk/in-search-of-mapp-and-lucia-in-rye-591184.html" rel="nofollow"><b>The sands of time have left Rye high and dry</b></a>.</p>
<p>Many thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: ellaella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellaella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Luciaphile, I absolutely loved this trip to Tilling/Rye. As you know, when I tried to get there I ended up at Stonehenge and Brighton, so your words and photos are most welcome and places I recognize are because of Mapp and Lucia on TV and video. It&#039;s good to know their &quot;backstory.&quot;

No photo of Lamb House?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Luciaphile, I absolutely loved this trip to Tilling/Rye. As you know, when I tried to get there I ended up at Stonehenge and Brighton, so your words and photos are most welcome and places I recognize are because of Mapp and Lucia on TV and video. It&#8217;s good to know their &#8220;backstory.&#8221;</p>
<p>No photo of Lamb House?</p>
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		<title>By: Roads</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Silver Fox. Of all the things that amazed me when researching this post, somehow it wasn&#039;t the retreat of the coast by almost three miles over one thousand years, or even the destruction and disappearance of an established English town and port under several kilometres of sea.

Nor was it the development of a massive and laterally extensive entirely new dune system some 5km long and over 10m high, all within less than four centuries. These sand dunes are still growing today if partially limited by the road and the village of Camber behind them.

Like much of the British coastline, the English Channel has an extreme tidal range of around 5m. In combination with a southeast-facing shoreface and prevailing southwesterly winds, the scope for sediment movement through longshore drift, erosion and redeposition is huge. 

To the east of Camber Sands lies Dungeness -- a vast headland wilderness of shingle which juts out into the English Channel. It&#039;s clearly visible on the old map of the Cinque Ports above as a promontory sticking out into the sea.

The Romney Marshes, one of the largest and most important wetlands in Britain and an easterly extension of the Rye levels, lies right behind it. A process of spit migration here closed off the Romney harbour entrance in the Middle Ages, leading to diversion of the River Rother and most likely indirectly leading to the destruction of Winchelsea on its shingle bank to the south.

That&#039;s all very intriguing, illustrating the extreme lateral mobility of the coastline in this most remote part of southern England. And it&#039;s just that little bit more worrying when you realise that the remoteness of Dungeness, and not its geological stability, was the reason for siting Dungeness nuclear power station just a few kilometres to the east.

That&#039;s not the kind of structure you&#039;d really like to see built on a shifting bar of shingle. But that&#039;s exactly what has happened.

Many thanks again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Silver Fox. Of all the things that amazed me when researching this post, somehow it wasn&#8217;t the retreat of the coast by almost three miles over one thousand years, or even the destruction and disappearance of an established English town and port under several kilometres of sea.</p>
<p>Nor was it the development of a massive and laterally extensive entirely new dune system some 5km long and over 10m high, all within less than four centuries. These sand dunes are still growing today if partially limited by the road and the village of Camber behind them.</p>
<p>Like much of the British coastline, the English Channel has an extreme tidal range of around 5m. In combination with a southeast-facing shoreface and prevailing southwesterly winds, the scope for sediment movement through longshore drift, erosion and redeposition is huge. </p>
<p>To the east of Camber Sands lies Dungeness &#8212; a vast headland wilderness of shingle which juts out into the English Channel. It&#8217;s clearly visible on the old map of the Cinque Ports above as a promontory sticking out into the sea.</p>
<p>The Romney Marshes, one of the largest and most important wetlands in Britain and an easterly extension of the Rye levels, lies right behind it. A process of spit migration here closed off the Romney harbour entrance in the Middle Ages, leading to diversion of the River Rother and most likely indirectly leading to the destruction of Winchelsea on its shingle bank to the south.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all very intriguing, illustrating the extreme lateral mobility of the coastline in this most remote part of southern England. And it&#8217;s just that little bit more worrying when you realise that the remoteness of Dungeness, and not its geological stability, was the reason for siting Dungeness nuclear power station just a few kilometres to the east.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the kind of structure you&#8217;d really like to see built on a shifting bar of shingle. But that&#8217;s exactly what has happened.</p>
<p>Many thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Silver Fox</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post!</p>
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